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Post by werewolf on May 8, 2007 23:38:32 GMT -5
This is not an oppinion, it's the actual fact. Anyone disbeleiving will die. Yes God created EVERYTHING on Earth. His son, Jesus was the first thing he ever created, even before Earth. And SB, Satan isn't a god, he's an angel. He became so arrogant and wanted to be like God. God created other angels before. The ones who followed Satan are demons. They are BAD! Grrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!! They can posess you and get in your homes! So God will destroy this system and the demons, and Satan. All good people will live forever in a beautiful paradise! (That includes NO to stealing, getting drunk alot, purposely smoking, evil, killing, hating God, violence, porn, explict sex, etc.)
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Post by Bengl Von Shadowstein on May 8, 2007 23:47:32 GMT -5
My Theory is that Humanity is Completely Blind to the Truth and opan the Day that it is revealed to them they'll either Go insane and destroy themselves or find enlightenment beyond mortal understanding.
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Post by phantom general on May 9, 2007 23:26:28 GMT -5
very well, then i'll die for my beliefs... and if there is a hell bring on the fire and brimstone! now, first off... i'm friends with satanists, completely by accident... but i've known them long enough to see their view on things and quite frankly, werewolf you couldn't be more wrong... first let me touch on the church doctrine: god created adam and eve first, not jesus... now for the rest of this rant.... satanists aren't what christians make them out to be, i find them to be good people to hang around with and besides all one god-fearing christians simply seek to destroy what they don't understand, infact if this was the middle ages you could burn me... and seeing as i'm safe here in canada in the 21st century CE from human rights violations such as being burned at the stake because of my religion... that's not happening... anyway, back to the subject at hand: we may never know how much mythology, folklore and gods through out the centuries are now lost forever, further add the fact early attempts to destroy all religions in the west except christianity and even later attempts have failed, infact when you look at it in the long run, christianity is a destroyer, not satanism and not paganism. in my closing statement, i ask two questions: what does your god look like? and who killed more people in the bible?
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Post by Bengl Von Shadowstein on May 9, 2007 23:31:04 GMT -5
Christians will always say that god doesn't need an appearance, but has always been portrayed as looking somewhat like Zeus of Greek Mythology. And of Course God Kills People, they gotta Die sometime.
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Post by PacoJoe on May 10, 2007 17:47:36 GMT -5
first let me touch on the church doctrine: god created adam and eve first, not jesus... God didn't create Adam and Eve first, those were just the first humans he created after creating the earth and the sun and the animals and everything else. And since Jesus isn't human, he's God's son, he was around for quite a while before his human form was given to the earth. And to answer your two incredibly original questions: Since nobody has ever seen God unless they were dead and went to Heaven, nobody knows what God truely looks like, and anyone who claims to is one of two things: either completely wrong or an incredibly good guesser. And Satan doesn't kill people, he tempts them to do evil so as to corrupt their souls and have them sent to his domain, and God was purifying the earth of evil.
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Post by MightySage on May 12, 2007 15:53:09 GMT -5
This is not an oppinion, it's the actual fact. Anyone disbeleiving will die. Yes God created EVERYTHING on Earth. His son, Jesus was the first thing he ever created, even before Earth. And SB, Satan isn't a god, he's an angel. He became so arrogant and wanted to be like God. God created other angels before. The ones who followed Satan are demons. They are BAD! Grrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!! They can posess you and get in your homes! So God will destroy this system and the demons, and Satan. All good people will live forever in a beautiful paradise! (That includes NO to stealing, getting drunk alot, purposely smoking, evil, killing, hating God, violence, porn, explict sex, etc.) correction, its not a fact, merely a belief.In the end, there is absolutely no proof that any religion is correct, therefore they are all opinions. and Paco, you didn't exactly answer Phantom's second question,lol.
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Post by Bengl Von Shadowstein on May 12, 2007 16:47:23 GMT -5
I think you mean Belief, Mightysage. Anyone else notice that I've gone From worst to best speller in the brotherhood?
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Post by MightySage on May 12, 2007 18:14:28 GMT -5
...Don't make me dig up your post about your Cyber-Tigers....
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Post by Bengl Von Shadowstein on May 12, 2007 18:36:37 GMT -5
Stop rubbing In my Failed Experiments!
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Post by Bengl Von Shadowstein on May 12, 2007 18:37:05 GMT -5
*squashes off topic bug before it grows outta control*
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Post by phantom general on May 18, 2007 22:58:35 GMT -5
and now, religious violence through the centuries (as i see it): scene 1: burning of the libraries christian: *throws a scientific scroll into a large bonfire of scrolls while singing the horst wessel lied out loud, knowing he's holding technology back 300 years* scene 2: the crusades the pope: *sitting at his finely made mahogany desk* Damnit! let's go kill some arabs! scene 3: the inquisitions judge: *sitting at his desk* are you, or have you ever been, a jew? scene 4: salem witch trials random guy: we found a witch, may we burn her? and finally scene 5: 2003 bush: *sitting at his finely made mahogany desk* Damnit! let's go kill some arabs!
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Post by phantom general on May 29, 2007 0:44:28 GMT -5
and now the ancient greek perspective:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God. ~Epicurus
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Post by Arnold on May 29, 2007 15:06:22 GMT -5
What about the philosophy that without evil, good cannot exist either?
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Post by phantom general on Jun 4, 2007 18:10:18 GMT -5
let's remember that both good and evil are purely subjective... for example: it's a good thing that christians burned all the mayan books because they were considered heresy... now on the flip side, they are evil for doing that very same thing because we don't know what is now lost forever...
it really depends on exactly who's side you look at it... the one doing the persecuting or the one being persecuted...
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