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Post by SquirrelBoy on Aug 21, 2008 11:04:55 GMT -5
My parents and I watched a documentary last night called Zeitgeist. They got it from a friend so i'm not sure where you can get it yet, but it shows the sickening truth about are government. With things like 911, WW1 and 2, Vietnam, and others things. The first part is about religion, which I can't say I think should be on there, so you may want to skip if you get it. I highly reccomend it, and ask that you pass it on to anyone you know that will listen.
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Post by BlackHelicopter on Aug 21, 2008 15:55:58 GMT -5
i looked it up, and it does cover a lot of important truths... however, the direct stab at Christianity leads me to suspect its calculated disinformation, aimed more at getting doubt into peoples' minds about Jesus than exposing conspiracies... this kind of tactic is nothing new, the UFO world is full of such measures, the MJ-12 papers promoting the alien agenda being one... you release some truth to make it seem like its on your side, then you tack on something more controversial... and because the truth stuff is legit, people will more readily accept the rest also as real, falling neatly into the disinfo trap... this is particularly critical to consider in the case of this documentary... i'm not out to convert people or anything, just present a couple facts about the ruling class that iirc i alluded to before... the Illuminati, de facto rulers of the world, are fully aligned with the oldest and greatest enemy, Satan... their control reaches into governments across the globe, their endeavors to set up a one world totalitarian regime can be seen everywhere, as well as the very symbols of their occult origins (the all seeing eye on the dollar bill to name just one)... the following site has a rather insurmountable amount of photographic evidence as to whom several high-ranking political figures are affiliated with (yes i posted it before, but this time i'm elaborating on its significance)... www.gatecreepers.com/entries/exclusive-chavez-was-right/a "small" elaboration on the most powerful of the satanic bloodlines involved (note many familiar names)... www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/index.htminteresting tidbit about the author of the above book, he's currently in jail on trumped up charges of white supremacist activity, arms stockpiling and either marijuana growing or bank robbery (two different news sources claim either)... regarding the "alien agenda", here is an interesting piece showing how aliens and the demonic are closely tied together even throughout the ancient world... www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/demons_aliens_clothes.htma brief summary of how they've been planning this for some time... www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/illumin.htma couple miscellaneous links... www.thunderministries.net/Kabbalah/satanic.htmwww.illuminatiarchives.org/category/satanic/it all boils down to the ever-present conflict between good and evil, God and the devil, humans being pretty much pawns in the game as far as Satan is concerned, a means to the end prophesied by Daniel and John, among others... sorry for my own semi-rant there, not trying to hijack your post, just making a commentary based on what i know... i would recommend as well anyone wishing to learn the truth through this documentary to skip the religion-bashing, or at least when watching it keep in mind all thats been posted above, with special thought for why Satan is known as the prince of lies... its brutally ironic and rather nauseating, to link Christianity's origins with their own occultic past in ancient Egypt...
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Post by Arnold on Aug 21, 2008 17:29:10 GMT -5
nice
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Post by WarmrootBeer on Aug 21, 2008 22:06:28 GMT -5
::Shuts eyes and covers ears::
Dudes, this would fit in better in the debate board...
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Post by BlackHelicopter on Aug 21, 2008 23:37:55 GMT -5
its conspiratorial in both nature and content, thus belongs here most adequately... i don't see any debate here actually, just discussion and (so far) agreement...
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Post by SquirrelBoy on Aug 22, 2008 6:58:12 GMT -5
Which is exactly what Stanton T. Friedman says in his book, Flying saucers and science. I just finished reading it, and I reccomend for anyone who's interested in that kind of thing.
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Post by BlackHelicopter on Aug 22, 2008 7:24:59 GMT -5
Stan Friedman supports the aliens = demons viewpoint?... i know Jacques Vallée started heading that way after a while and promptly lost a lot of cred in the UFO world...
been too busy with current events conspiracies to pay attention to the UFO world of late, interesting to hear...
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Post by SquirrelBoy on Aug 22, 2008 9:03:15 GMT -5
No, he's more of the the "They haven't landed on the White house lawn because were so dangerous" kind of guy. Which I agree with him, to a point, considering we do kill each other on a daily basis, have one the most destructive weapons known to man, waste money with pointless wars instead of putting that money towards solving hunger issues and other shit, and that we can't come together as a whole to solve things like global warming or energy needs. An alien wouldn't be able to say, "Take me to your leader", because we don't have one/several. Of course, giving that much power to one person, is quite stupid, so if we ever do unite the planet, we should have several. Obviously an odd number of them.
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Post by WarmrootBeer on Aug 22, 2008 12:59:16 GMT -5
Good poin, good point...
Well then your false flag operation thread would probably belong here too, because that's a conspericy
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Post by Arnold on Aug 22, 2008 15:16:26 GMT -5
No, he's more of the the "They haven't landed on the White house lawn because were so dangerous" kind of guy. Which I agree with him, to a point, considering we do kill each other on a daily basis, have one the most destructive weapons known to man, waste money with pointless wars instead of putting that money towards solving hunger issues and other shit, and that we can't come together as a whole to solve things like global warming or energy needs. An alien wouldn't be able to say, "Take me to your leader", because we don't have one/several. Of course, giving that much power to one person, is quite stupid, so if we ever do unite the planet, we should have several. Obviously an odd number of them. I actually believe that these problems are to be blamed on demonic aliens themselves. We're dangerous to decent peace-loving aliens because the demonic ones have made us this way. Of course we have the freewill to choose between good and evil but unfortunately many of us have succumbed to evil because it's easier to be an inconsiderate, greedy, asshole, which is what doing evil things turns you into.
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Post by BlackHelicopter on Aug 22, 2008 19:49:42 GMT -5
Good poin, good point... Well then your false flag operation thread would probably belong here too, because that's a conspericy well technically, i was expecting more actual debate from that subject so it was suitably located, though yes, this forum is equally suited for such discussion... i can go so far as to say one of the two forums is a redundancy, but its not a big deal unless we make it one eh... as for the good aliens vs. demonic aliens stuff, i don't believe in any aliens per the "from another planet on our plane of existence" thing... ultra- or extra-dimensional is more along the lines im thinking... as for Friedman, he's starting to reek of disinfo now, which is sad because i respected him before and found his research to be a cut above most other well-known UFO researchers... but who cares i guess, things are accelerating and all will be revealed in the not so distant future...
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Post by Arnold on Aug 22, 2008 21:04:27 GMT -5
Those extra-dimensional aliens you're talking about wouldn't technically be aliens right? They would be either benevolent and malevolent forces that could manifest themselves in physical forms... I was actually talking about Greys and Reptilians and Nordic.
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Post by BlackHelicopter on Aug 22, 2008 22:59:24 GMT -5
well yeah, but i'm saying there arent any actual Greys, Nordics Reptilians etc, but they are demonic forces in disguise, those very forces manifesting themselves in physical forms as a deception... Faaip De Oiad by Tool and the source interview on the Art Bell show lend some credence to this, particularly the bizarre events surrounding the interview...
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Post by Arnold on Aug 23, 2008 10:58:45 GMT -5
Ah.
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