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Post by Chupa Spotter on Mar 10, 2005 16:24:41 GMT -5
MELODRAMTIC!!! I say don't leave, your being to dramatic. so pickle made racist comments, its on the internet and he is a dumb ass. I say wopdy fuckin doo. Be the beter human and don't leave. If you leave he wins. Is that what you really want?
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Post by Everyone's favourite slut. on Mar 10, 2005 17:04:06 GMT -5
Oh yes, perfectly acceptable to make racist comments. I should just forget all about it, turn a blind eye. Look, it's no big deal if I go, I will be forgotten soon enough. And yes, I do realise that if I leave Pickle wins. I don't care. Not now.
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Post by Chupa Spotter on Mar 10, 2005 17:16:32 GMT -5
Now it sounds like you are acting like you need attention. And I get called cracker at school, and I have to learn about malcom X who preached that "The white man is the devil!!!" but you don't see me saying " im leaving school forever". Besides you know pickle is an idiot so why does it matter. You may say there is a difference between people calling me a cracker and what he said to you but there is no difference. And why would you want to give pickle the satisfaction of winning against you. If the people who are being segregated against don't try to defend their freedoms in a civil manner then racism wins. And apparently you want pickle to feel good, at the fact that he ran you off the web site. Don't give him the satisfaction of that.
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Post by GlacetheIceLord on Mar 10, 2005 17:21:36 GMT -5
Chupa, you dont know what it was like. Tom was horrible. If I was criticised like Kaveeta was I sure as heck would leave this site too. She is not being dramatic, so dont say that. And Kaveeta please dont leave. You will not be forgotten.
Oh and tim, F you! How dare you insult Larahl, my friend, like that. Tim, human scum. You and your boyfriend Tom are going straight down to he*l!
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Post by Vensent on Mar 10, 2005 18:30:03 GMT -5
... Nice contribution Glace. Why don't you go back to your cage and stay there before Tim shoots you, it's pretty much already been decided that Tim's not the enemy, Tom is. My view on Kaveeta's case is a lot like Josh's. Maybe I'm just naive, but the kind of racism that most people experience is just silly little insults (e.g. cracker, nigger, paki), and I don't really see why Kav get's so mad about them. Now, racism may never be right, I don't believe it should be, but stuff like that has been around for an extremely long time, and it may continue until the end of time. There will probably always be idiots who say insults like that, there's almost no way to stop them, and our only real defence against them is to accept them for what they are: completely dumb and unpowerful words. The only way for them to have power over us or anyone, is to give them power. If Kaveeta wants to leave, I guess she's gonna leave, there's not much we can do to stop her, not that we should. But I think unless she's been subject to much more painful racism, she should really think about how emotional she gets over insults... But then again, there's the possibilty I'm just a naive little child who doesn't know what he's saying, so whatever...
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Post by Chupa Spotter on Mar 10, 2005 18:31:09 GMT -5
Of what I have heard he just made fun of where her family came from and also Ghandi.
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Post by Chupa Spotter on Mar 10, 2005 18:35:26 GMT -5
And besides its not like pickle is even here anymore. I think he has been permanantly banned by the way it looks. But if he posts right after me I will eat my own shoe. If you leave its not hurting him. It will make him feel beter.
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Post by Vensent on Mar 10, 2005 18:41:08 GMT -5
Kav always seems as if she is hiding some horrible inner pain though, we need to consider the possibility of something much worse. And Kaveeta, if there is something bad going on, don't forget that I will always try to give you advice if you want it.
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Post by Chupa Spotter on Mar 10, 2005 18:45:56 GMT -5
There are alot of friends for you here. If you leave who will that hurt? Pickle? No... It will hurt, Alex, Fenrir, Me, Tim (he doesn't hate you), Glace, George and last but should have been first... True lies. If you leave it will hurt us all, so do what you need to.
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Post by Everyone's favourite slut. on Mar 11, 2005 7:26:00 GMT -5
Hmmmm...let me see...how do I make a comeback with all of this. Okay here it goes:
Have I ever been subjected to any other form of racism in my life? Apart from being called a paki. Let's see...my parents are self employed, our shop is located in a predominantly white area. While they are liked by some, by most, we are just a paki family that is there to serve them. We all get treated like shit basically.
We have had our windows smashed in on a regular basis. Bottles thrown at them...glass bottles (nice to know isn't it?) Held at knife point- the best one yet.
I just love it when I am absolultley helpless when there are drunks in our shop refusing to move shouting at the top of their voices "What the fuck are you gona do you stupid fucking paki's. This isn't your country, you are here to serve us."
Yes, it's beautiful I know. Yes, it's an insult coming from a drunk man, but can't even even begin to imagine for one second what it would be like to know that your parents are treated this way and you can do absolutley nothing about it.
I'm not asking you to understand. The only reason I'm bothering to tell you this is that you can get off my case about it. That is why I am so anti-racist. That is why I am so sensitive to the most minescule racist comments. Call me an attention seeker if you will. Think that it hasn't happened and that I'm not telling the truth. I can't force you to change your minds about anything.
"Kav always seems as if she is hiding some horrible inner pain though..."
That's because I am Fenrir. Hiding it because no-one will be able to handle it. If Charlotte was still on this site she would tell you what it's like when you get behind the facade that I have. Hell, ask Alex, he knows, he doesn't know much, but he knows enough. It's not pretty. I'm shrouded because I don't want to be treated like a sad-case, I just wanted to fit in and be like everyone else. Trying to be something I'm not is proving extremely difficult.
I can guarantee the next post will be by someone calling me melodramatic, or an attention seeker. Don't feel bad about it. I've been called that for the past 6 years. I'll just pretend that it doesn't bother me.
So there you go, you have a piece of me. You have knocked down atleast one wall.
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Post by Vensent on Mar 11, 2005 8:36:42 GMT -5
Woah there Kaveeta, you sound as if you think I'm your enemy, I was simply trying to understand.
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Post by Everyone's favourite slut. on Mar 11, 2005 8:39:42 GMT -5
Well...what do you want me to say? I'm so sick of this. That previous post, took alot to write; that's me. It's what I am. Some people understand; like Alex and Char Jas...and some people don't. Like; everyone else...
I just can't win. Fucking double edged sword.
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Post by Googy McFloogal Puss on Mar 11, 2005 12:47:41 GMT -5
Just out of interest, why should anybody have to justify their "no tolerance" anti-racism views?
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Post by Vensent on Mar 11, 2005 12:57:03 GMT -5
They shouldn't, I never said she had to, I was just wondering.
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Post by Everyone's favourite slut. on Mar 11, 2005 13:04:57 GMT -5
Well you've got your answer. I justified everything for you. Unless, you want to know anything else.
I didn't know being against racism was such a fucking crime. Meh, whatever. Like I said; I did it so everyone would get off my back, regardless of the repurcussions from opening up several old wounds. As usual, everything is my fault. And I'm wrong...yet again. Woo...let us all have a big old party now.
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